Mr. Faust, can you tell me where you got the information that police can only get your IP adresse-internet information ONLY if its a sexually related matter ? i would suggest that this is incorrect, it can be any criminal offence, as long as it can be articulated that the IP adresse and internet information is linked to the crime you are investigating . Now in this case, its my understanding that it has been said many times that it was a clerical error as these forms are most often used for these investigation (sexual offences) The person or officer simply forgot to replace the header capturing the sexual offence investigation with the Libel investigation ... Lets move on with this ...
Unless the changes in bill C-51 gives power for local police to retrieve personal information for other investigations besides terrorism. Read the Bernard Richard's report he talks about policing being able to access internet activity from the Internet provider if the offense are child related.
The general definition of negligence in an nut shell is an act or an omission of an act that cause injury, Many civil lawsuits have been lost because of forgetting to do something.
The problem with your argument is that the body of the text had to be written by somebody, the header really doesn't matter.
You have understand that the fundamental role of the police is to collect evidence that the prosecution can use to get a conviction. That is their job. Some ambitious police will get that information by any means necessary.
What I seen regardless of the Clerical error excuse. The officers who drafted the content didn't demonstrate a standard of care that you expect from a investigating professional.
Recently I had the opportunity to speak to several municipal police chiefs on a project that I am working on, part of the conversation did touch on policing, and from what I have seen with our police force and the conversation with the chief I can say that provincially our municipal police are doing a good job for the most part.
But there has to be checks and balances to keep the system working properly. The greatest challenge id finding that balance between civil rights and enforcement.
When police do good there success should be celebrated, but on the other hand if an error is committed then they should be accountable for that error.
i hear what your saying, and understand your concern ... It is a serious error (the typo error), but police officers are humans as well . Be careful with Bernard Richard, he is not a criminal lawyer or a prosecutor. I assure you police can get your IP adresse info or internet provider info, for other criminal offences, other then sexual crimes . For example, if you wrote e-mails or sent online messages to another person stating you want to Kill them and you are making other threats to that person. Well, police would have the power to write a juridicial authorization to obtain IP adresses, internet info, to support the death threats are coming from your computer, your IP adresse, etc .... It can apply to any other crimes also, as long as you are able to articulate that the internet information and IP adresse will provide evidence to the crime ...
Mr. Faust, can you tell me where you got the information that police can only get your IP adresse-internet information ONLY if its a sexually related matter ? i would suggest that this is incorrect, it can be any criminal offence, as long as it can be articulated that the IP adresse and internet information is linked to the crime you are investigating . Now in this case, its my understanding that it has been said many times that it was a clerical error as these forms are most often used for these investigation (sexual offences) The person or officer simply forgot to replace the header capturing the sexual offence investigation with the Libel investigation ... Lets move on with this ...
ReplyDeleteNot true. The form is for sex related investigations, other offences require a court order.
DeleteUnless the changes in bill C-51 gives power for local police to retrieve personal information for other investigations besides terrorism. Read the Bernard Richard's report he talks about policing being able to access internet activity from the Internet provider if the offense are child related.
ReplyDeleteThe general definition of negligence in an nut shell is an act or an omission of an act that cause injury, Many civil lawsuits have been lost because of forgetting to do something.
The problem with your argument is that the body of the text had to be written by somebody, the header really doesn't matter.
You have understand that the fundamental role of the police is to collect evidence that the prosecution can use to get a conviction. That is their job. Some ambitious police will get that information by any means necessary.
What I seen regardless of the Clerical error excuse. The officers who drafted the content didn't demonstrate a standard of care that you expect from a investigating professional.
Recently I had the opportunity to speak to several municipal police chiefs on a project that I am working on, part of the conversation did touch on policing, and from what I have seen with our police force and the conversation with the chief I can say that provincially our municipal police are doing a good job for the most part.
But there has to be checks and balances to keep the system working properly. The greatest challenge id finding that balance between civil rights and enforcement.
When police do good there success should be celebrated, but on the other hand if an error is committed then they should be accountable for that error.
i hear what your saying, and understand your concern ... It is a serious error (the typo error), but police officers are humans as well . Be careful with Bernard Richard, he is not a criminal lawyer or a prosecutor. I assure you police can get your IP adresse info or internet provider info, for other criminal offences, other then sexual crimes . For example, if you wrote e-mails or sent online messages to another person stating you want to Kill them and you are making other threats to that person. Well, police would have the power to write a juridicial authorization to obtain IP adresses, internet info, to support the death threats are coming from your computer, your IP adresse, etc .... It can apply to any other crimes also, as long as you are able to articulate that the internet information and IP adresse will provide evidence to the crime ...
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