This is an inquiry email via http://www.nbpolicecommission.ca/site/ from: Charles LeBlanc
I want the New Brunswick Police Commission to investigate two members of the Edmundston Police Force < This complaint is against Deputy Chief Andre Madore and SGT Rejean Couturier. > and the members of the Fredericton Police Force.
On November 8th at around 1:00pm, I was standing at the corner of Brunswick and St.John Street. As a Blogger, I confront MLA'S heading towards the New Brunswick Legislature for stories.
I noticed two men heading towards me in Black Suits. These strangers separated once they came 10 to 15 feet from me.
One guy quickly stood behind me and the other quickly showed me a badge saying - Monsieur LeBlanc I am the Police Chief of the Edmundston Police Force. Can you come with us for a drive at the Police Station. < in French >
I quickly went for my camera because I didn't know these two individuals and I don't believe that the Chief of Police from the Edmundston Police Force would travel all the way to the Capital to speak with me.
I said - What is he doing? Why is he behind me? I told Edmundston Police officer Andre Madore.
Andre Madore identified as the police Chief asked if i wanted to go at the Station?
I said no. Edmundston Police officer Sgt Rejean Couturier said - I am the Police in charge from Edmundston.
I said - Why are you behind me?
They repeated they were Cops from Edmundston.
I asked - If they were speaking Quebecois?
They switched to English.
I had to tell them again to not get too close. I added that I had the camera on and pointed to the other cameras in the area. They said - That's good.
I asked Andre Madore the reason they did not come to my house?
He did not answer.
He said - Well... we are here now. We saw you. We decided we wanted to talk to you.
I asked - How did you know me?
He said - Like I am trying to tell you. I am with the City of Edmundston Police Force.
I asked - Are you R.C.M.P. < While telling them to stay back >
He said - Let me talk to you.
I replied - I had 3 double double coffee and I have ADHD!
We would like to talk to you about Defamatory Libel.
I said - AGAIN??
He said - Yes, in regards to the Fredericton Police Force.
He said - Several of them and the ones you called Pedophiles.
I said - This is 2016 right?
Rejean Couturier said it was November 8th.
Andre Madore said while laughing said - Why is this important?
I said - Because I taught this was all through in 2012 with the Bernard Richard's report.
Andre Madore - Those are still on your Blog. Those videos are still on your Blog. Where you are calling Fredericton Police Officers pedophiles.
I said - Did you know the Fredericton Police Force accuse me of exploiting kids for Sex? At this point, I quickly grabbed the form they have sent to Rogers < internet company > quote - In accordance with my duties and authority as a Peace Officer, I am conducting a criminal investigation relating to a child Sexual Exploitation Offense. It is an official request for an account information regarding a Libel investigation dated October 28th 2011 investigating officers Robb Costello, Bobbi Simmons- Beauchamp and Sergeant Ed Smith.
Andre Madore then said - We want to talk to you about that but we like to do it in an interview room.
I said - Noooo....that's ridiculous.
At that point Andre Madore then said - Well Charles, then we are going to place you under arrest.
I said - No..I don't think so!
He grabbed me and I yell - GET THE R.C.M.P.!!! GET THE R.C.M.P.!! I DON'T KNOW YOU!!! I DON'T KNOW YOU!!!! HEY!!! NO! NO! NO! NO!! I don't know you. Leave me alone. Get the R.C.M.P. here. Don't grab etc etc...while running in the middle of busy King Street with two strangers chasing me.
Andre Madore yelled - STOP!!!
I repeated my objections of being grabbed. I began to yell for the R.C.M.P.!!
They kept on yelling - STOP!!! They continued to grabbed at me in the middle of King Street.
Then I yelled repeatedly - GET THE POLICE to the dozens of bystanders.
Andre Madore said- We are going to go!!
I said- No! You are not taking my anywhere.
I repeated my previous objections and asked again for the Cops while they continued to grab me. I shouted You could be Mafia for all I know.
I said - You hurt my shoulder!!!
They said - Well yes...you did that yourself. They both shouted - STOP RESISTING!!!
I repeated myself in shouting - STAY AWAY!!! I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU PEOPLE ARE!!!
I repeated for the need of an Ambulance. They said - You are coming with us!!!
I said - No!
They said - YOU ARE UNDER ARREST RIGHT NOW!!!
I said - I would not get into their car because they were in plain clothes.
Andre Ouellette the Executive Assistant to Minister of Public Safety Denis Landry arrived at the scene.
I asked him if he was responsible for this???
Andre and the plain clothes individual all told me to relax.
I said - Ok...get the R.C.M.P. here.
The Cops then told me they were taking me to R.C.M.P. Headquarters.
I said - No!!! STOP TOUCHING ME!!!
They once again told me that I was under arrest.
Andre Madore told me that I should know Rejean Couturier because I have supposedly seen him before.
Rejean Couturier then proceeded to explain to me that he met with me at my house concerning a case ordered by Dan Bussieres < 4 years earlier >
Here's the video....I forgot his face and name. Why is Rejean Couturier coming after me AGAIN????
He wanted to charge me with criminal code 300 4 years ago also -
I repeated the fact that I wanted a uniform Cop and stop grabbing me. They then said they wanted to take me to Oromocto R.C.M.P..
I said - I am not going there.
The Cops told me they were going to bring me.
I said - I wanted a lawyer.
They said - Ok..you can see a lawyer.
I said - Do I have the right to a lawyer?
He said- Yes, you do. Lets go. We need to go to a Police Station if you want to see a lawyer.
They tried to grab me again! Then they tried to grab my camera. I put it in my pocket.
I said - Am I under arrest and for what?
For defaming members of the Fredericton Police Force.
I said - Which one?
They replied - Matt Myers, Robb Costello, Frederick L'oiseau, Darrell Carter, Yves Despres and two others!
Rejean Couturier - Come on Charles.....
Just then a citizen arrive on a bicycle and began making a video with his camera. He asked - What was going on?
Again??? I asked for the Cops and Ambulance.
The cops said - Come with us.
No!!! You hurt my shoulder!!! - I replied!
The cops yelled - STOP RESISTING!!! ..and so on....
Finally after 6 and 20 seconds of my filming this confrontation they agreed to phone a uniform member of the Fredericton Police Force.
I once AGAIN told them that I have a mental illness and ADHD!!!
I told the Cops that I have a lawsuit against the members of the Fredericton Police Force.
I asked - If they knew about the case?
They said - No. I don't know about that.
I then said - Ahhhhh!!!! There's a Cop!!! OK... lets < Fredericton Police arrive to the scene one minutes after being called by Rejean Couturier >
I told the Fredericton Police officer < Mike Wilson > - Now Mike! Mike? Are you involved in this???
He said - Charles? What is going on??
I said - You tell me I'm not running away. Don't worry about it.
Rejean Couturier - Ok.
Mike Wilson - No, I don't know why they're here either. I have no idea.
Rejean Couturier - We are placing him under arrest but he won't come with us......< sic >......
We are going to bring him to the Oromocto Detachment for questioning but he doesn't want to go there.
I said - OF COURSE NOT!!!
Rejean Couturier - So he wanted a uniform officer and that's when we call you guys.
I said - I don't know who you people are?
Mike Wilson - Come on over here buddy...Charles...Charles...settle down...I'm going to be honest with you...I don't know what's going on either.
......Ummmmm......
They are Police Officers..one is the Chief of Edmundston and the other is the Deputy Chief.
The Sgt of the Fredericton Police Force Dwight Doyle told me they were the Deputy Chief and Sargent.
I said - I want these people charge and I want their names. They grabbed me...I want them charge!!!! I am not going with these guys. You guys arrest me in uniforms ...no problem!! I am not going with those two guys...I don't know who they are?? They could be C.S.I.S.or whatever.
Mike Wilson - Charles, come and sit in my car just for a moment..calm down and we are going to try to figure all this out?
I said - I am not running..trust me. I am not running...< Because they were VERY close to me >
Mike Wilson - They are Policemen.
I said - They just came out of nowhere and suddenly they said - Charles? You are under arrest for libel.
They are coming after me again. Do you have some Ritalin or marijuana Mike?
Mike Wilson - No! I just want you to settle down for the sake of your health. I don't have any water.
Executive Assistant to Minister of Public safety Denis Landry Andre Ouellette once again came to the scene.
I said - Is this the way you do stuff? Send tow God damn Cops after me???
Mike Wilson - Remember your health. Settle down!!
I said - I am not going with those two guys. You will have to handcuff me and put me on the ground. They are in plain clothes. Could be C.S.I.S., Strangers. I am not going there and get beat up. I don't think so!!!
Mike Wilson - ..and I don't want you to get beat up. I don't want you to get all work up like this. You are all work up.
I said - They grabbed me and I have to go to the hospital. Do you have a couple of pills Mike?
Mike Wilson - No...
I said - What are you f.....good for? < chuckle > Mike Wilson - Lets just get this thing figure out for your health.
< Mike try to calm me down for the next minute or so >
Fredericton Police Officer Sgt Dwight Doyle said - The Edmundston Police said he is under arrest already for something that's on his Blog so they want to take you to our Station and talk to you.
Are you listening to me Charles? I don't speak French ok?
I said - No..No..No..that's allright.
Mike Wilson - I will take you in. How's that???
Dwight Doyle - These guys are Police Officers from the City of Edmundston.
I said - Do you know that?
Dwight Doyle - Yes, this is the Chief and Sargent from Edmundston.
I said - They got the Chief of Edmundston Police coming after me?
Doyle - Mike is going to bring you at the Police Station. They are going to read your rights on Camera.
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I said - I have ADHD! I asked - Who is the Chief?
Doyle - You are under arrest for Libel. You will find out at the station.
I said - I am under arrest for Libel???
Doyle - Yes.
I said - Now Bobbi Simmons came over my place in 2012 with you guys and charge me with libel.
Doyle - I don't think it's the same thing?
I said - It is the same thing..River Rat Matt Myer and L'oiseau...what are you guys doing???
Mike - It is not the same case. That's what he's trying to tell you.
I said - He mentioned..I got it on tape..he mentioned names..the same case < Names> as in the Inquiry of Bernard Richard.
Doyle - Why don't we go and deal with this all on camera?
I said - Noooo...I'm not going in front of a camera.
Doyle - Yes you are! You are under arrest. You are going at the Police Station.
I said - Ok..excuse me...are you arresting me?
My name is Doyle and No. they are arresting you. You are already under arrest.
I said - So? Are we going to the Police Station?
Here's the video -
Here's another video from someone who filmed for a few minutes to make a video -
This is my last video is at the Police station -
Charles: 300 now, before it was 301 that was two years in jail , now it's 300 and that's 5 years in jail. Why? Did you know there is a report by Bernard Richard?
cop: can I just finish (the blue board?) before the end of this?
They're gonna want to talk to ya, you can have all those questions answered when they're talking to you ok?
So you don't meet the conditions of release until they say you meet the condition of release. ok?
Charles: who are these people?
cop: or the judge, one or the other.
cop: The Edmundston police force, it's been explained to you a few times.
Charles: (inaudible)
cop: do you want to call a lawyer
Charles: yes of course I (inaudible)
cop: ok, they are going to read you your rights and I want you to (stand) for me for a minute. Do you have any injuries as a result of today?
Charles: yes
cop: what's your injury?
Charles: shoulder - he grabbed me, they both grabbed me. Chief of police.
cop: ok do you have any illnesses? that I need to know about
Charles: yes, yes.
cop: what illness have you got?
Charles: yes, I am epileptic, and I have asthma, and I take (inaudible) sleeping pill.
cop: what's that for?
Charles: that's for sleeping and calming down.
cop: ok, have you had your meds for today?
Charles: yes
cop: good ok so, medication we've already got set. Do you have any allergies?
Charles: dust
cop: inaudible
Charles: ya (someone talking in the background) "Cop Bobbi Simmons-Beauchamp's lawyer is mentioned
Charles: Cop Bobbi Simmons-Beauchamp? what does that mean? Cop Bobbi Simmons-Beauchamp lawyer?
oh my god
cop: when's your birthday Charles?
Charles: 01 - 08 - 59
cop: what's your address?
Charles: (I'm done talking now)?
cop: that's ok we know it off by heart
another cop: inaudible in background
cop: what's your address
Charles: email oldmaison@yahoo.com
cop: I don't know why you have to be so difficult. We're not being difficult with you.
cop: How tall are you? 6 feet? 5-9?
Charles: I have nothing to say until I see a lawyer
cop: well you're not going to see a lawyer but you'll get to talk to one.
Charles: I know (inaudible - both talking at the same time)
cop: says something to the other cop
other cop: right now?
cop: yup
cop - do you want French or English?
Do you want your rights in French or English?
Charles: chiac
cop: well, we started in English, so, continue with that, it's his choice. If you want me to read it in French let me know. ok, um, I'm deputy Chief Andre (Rourke?)
Charles: so you're deputy chief and the other one is the chief?
cop: no
Charles: I thought you said it was the chief here.
cop: No, I misunderstood
Charles: how many times have you guys misunderstood?
cop: he's a deputy I'm sorry I misunderstood. I thought he said he was chief
Charles: deputy chief what? I've got a headache. Can someone give me some drugs for a headache please?
cop: not until the end of the (inaudible)
cop: so you were arrested for defamatory libel
Charles: when did that happen?
cop: it happened at the end of 2013 and again in the beginning of , the middle of the year in 2014. ok, about two years ago. You posted some stuff on your blog. That's why we did this.
Charles: defamatory criminal code - excuse me , hold it. Criminal code
cop? : let me finish reading you your
Charles: I'm arrested for what? that's what I am trying to find out here.
cop: OK, ok I'm sorry because you posted some things on your blog regarding pedophilia - and for calling police officers pedophiles or could be pedophiles, and even identified someone as a (something cougar)
Charles: what?
cop: we talked to you about that, and that's why you were arrested.
Charles: no, no, no, by the way, the camera's on?
cop: yes it is. It is my duty to inform you you have the right to remain silent.
Charles: Fredericton police force I in accordance with my duties as a police officer
cop: charles
Charles: conducting a criminal investigation of child sexual exploitation offense.. Fredericton police. Where I'm at now, labeled me as a pedophile.
cop: I'll read that after do you understand? ok? cop: do you understand your rights?
Charles: I don't understand why I'm here. I asked for a lawyer and you refuse to bring me a lawyer.
cop: well, do you want one?
Charles: yes. I want a lawyer (inaudible) this week. (inaudible talking)
cop: do you want , do you have a name of a lawyer?
Charles: brought me to this place for nothing that camera's on right?
cop: do you want me to leave?
Charles: I want, anyone can explain to me what I'm here.
cop: Is that what you're waiting for? Do you want to talk to us or do you want to talk to a lawyer?
Charles: ya get a lawyer here
cop: ok
asks an inaudible question if you wish to speak to, ok, depending on your choice, it's up to you, we can call legal aid.
Charles: inaudible
cop: you get free legal advice do you understand those rights?
Charles: no I don't.
cop: you don't understand?
Charles: how come you guys grabbed me off the street. There's got to be a public inquiry - a proper public inquiry,
cop: that's ok Charles
Charles: how come you grab people off the street (inaudible both talking)
cop: do you want me to leave? do you want me to leave
Charles: ya I want a lawyer here
cop: you need not say anything, you have nothing to hold from me. (inaudible two people talking) you have the right to remain silent
Charles: oh my god, now you say that to me. ok. I have nothing to say.
cops in back ground talking about duty council
cop: do you want duty council?
Charles: I want a lawyer here. I don't know why I'm here.
cop: there won't be a lawyer that will come to you but you'll get to talk to one.
Charles: I gotta see, I can't say, he says what I say will be held against me.
cop: do you have a specific lawyer?
Charles: no I don't.,
Ambulance attendants arrive and start working on Charles
Medic: it's still a little high, do you want to go up to the hospital to get checked out?
Charles: yes
Medic: you do?
cop: only if he has to go
Medic: only if he has to go?
cop: only if he has to go
Medic (female) it's his choice
cop: ya well
Medic (female): and we cannot, um, rule out anything with his heart
cop: you can, I can't ok, you can I can't He's not going to the hospital unless you say he's got to go.
Medic: hmm Medic (female) we can't rule this out as being not cardiac,
cop: so you're saying he has to go?
Medic (female): our medical advice is that he has to go. and for the record, any patient that says they want to go, we're not allowed to deny them to go.
cop: he's in custody
Charles: for what?
cop: criminal libel 301
Charles: 301 - that's already been found unconstitutional in 3 other provinces.
(inaudable) Medics finishing up.
Medic: Charles, we're going to take you up ok?
Charles: if (sic) wouldn't talk I'd stay calm.
cop: it is true if you are able to calm down that it might help blood pressure will come down a little bit
inaudible - checking blood pressure
Charles:: here we go again with the Fredericton police force
cop: hat - glasses - necklace, and anything that's in your pockets
Here's the video -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g7SHv3sNLA
There are so many unanswered questions in this case that I don't know where to begin.
1- The " Officers " accosted me on the street < Corner of King and St John Street near the New Brunswick Legislature. Seemingly an inappropriate action by people who have no Jurisdiction in Fredericton.
2- This person < now identifies as Andre Madore > told me and Fredericton Police Officers told me that he was the Chief of Police and his partner was the Deputy Chief. Later he changed his mind saying he was the Deputy Chief and his partner was the Sgt.
3- They arrested me under the Criminal Code 300. This charge seem to be the same information as they had in 2012. In 2012, they arrested me with the same charge by the same members of the Fredericton Police Force. I was charged under the Criminal Code 301. This seem to be Double Jeopardy.
4- They < Police of Edmundston > said I was under arrest. Tried to arrest me. Did not succeed. The Fredericton Police intervened and took me to the Police Station to straighten the matter out. When they were asked directly by Police Mike Wilson if I was under arrest? They said - No.
5- At 3:03 in the video at the Police Station. Fredericton Police officer Sgt. Bobbi Simmons-Beauchamp's lawyer name was mentioned by Jason Forward < a Fredericton Police Officer >while I was in the lobby at the Fredericton Police Station. Why was Bobbi Simmons's lawyer mentioned?
6- The Officers from the Edmundston Police Force were playing games with my mental Illness < ADHD > by confronting me on the street. Notice in the video before the wrestling match, Deputy Chief Andre Madore was smirking at his partner. He was goading me. Why?
7- Edmundston Police Sgt Rejean Couturier quickly stood behind me at the beginning. Making me VERY uncomfortable.
8- Did the Edmundston Police officers have jurisdiction to arrest a citizen in the City of Fredericton? Did someone direct them to arrest me on the street?
9- I requested on MANY occasions for a uniform officer. Do they have the right to ignore the wishes of a citizen who demands that an uniform officer be present?
10 - Fredericton Police Sgt in charge Dwight Doyle was not aware of their presence or their intentions. Should the Fredericton Police Force have been inform of the presence of another Police force in their City?
11- They have been working on the case for one year and a half. They told the media two years. The Fredericton Police Force didn't have knowledge of this case? Who did and who pays?
12- I was told by the Deputy Chief of the Edmundston Police " Andre Madore " that they DID NOT read the Bernard Richard Report that was made public on December 6th 2012 after my place was raided by the Fredericton Police Force. I was charge under the criminal code 301. Why would they be investigating without all the evidence? Why ignore the report?
13 - I was never shown a warrant for my arrest. So? Why was I arrested in the first place? The only paper I signed was a paper to make certain I had all my belongings. Looks like they arrested me just to interrogate me. Is this not a violation of my rights?
14 - I was treated as a Criminal by the Fredericton Police Force. Before going to the hospital. They took my shoes, hat, jacket, belt, wallet. I wasn't in handcuff or shackles. But this look like an attempt to intimidate me and validate the abduction.
15- In video the Deputy Chief Andre Madore and Sgt Rejean Couturier would allow me to relax then grabbed me AGAIN. This went on and on for close to 9 minutes and 19 seconds. Unless they are going to arrest an individual. They should not touch them. < watch video >
16- Why didn't the members of the Edmundston Police Force read my Rights to me once they mentioned I was under arrest? In closing, I want the New Brunswick Police Commission to investigate my complaint. Did the Edmundston Police Force over step their duty in confronting me on the street in Fredericton?
Thank you
Charles Leblanc
145 Westmorland Street
APT # 1
Fredericton
New Brunswick
Canada
E3B 3L4
See? This is where the system fails.....what happens to the poor souls who cannot write?????
ReplyDeleteMr. Leblanc,
We have reviewed your correspondence and we will require written details of the specifics of your allegations. The New Brunswick Police Act requires a written complaint to provide sufficient details for the Commission and\or Chief of Police to characterize a complaint as a conduct, service or policy complaint. While the videos you have provided depict the incident surrounding your concerns, the Act requires that you detail in writing what behaviour occurred by the police officers that concerns you as well as when (day, date and time) and where the incident occurred and which officer each allegation applies to. As for the questions you pose in your correspondence, these do not provide details of your complaint. We would suggest you reformulate your complaint with the details needed and include the questions as some of the concerns you have.
The New Brunswick Police Commission
Pure and simple.
ReplyDeleteToo many police officer if they can spent so much time on you. My suggestion is cut every City $$$ allowance and force them to use the resources more efficiently forcing a budget cut in the police. If Lintch Police chief continues her harassment on citizens like Mr. LeBlanc then FIRE her and get someone who knows what police job is all about. The City needs RCMP
HIRED HIT MAN GONE WRONG. WHY NO ANSWER OF THIS INCIDENT. IS FREDERICTON CAPITAL OR ORGANIZED SYNDICATE? LOCAL POLICE EASIER TO HAVE IN YOUR POCKET. YOU ARE CORRECT REPLACE POLICE FORCE WITH R.C.M.P.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching your video anyone can see you have no basis for filing the complaint. They told you who they were and showed you ID numerous times. You're lucky they didn't charge you with resisting arrest after the way you reacted.
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