Tuesday, 20 January 2015
Miramichi Police Force Tactics against Blogger Charles LeBlanc are questioned by concerned citizen in Miramichi???
Charles, Miramichi Magazine
Just watched a video from Charles LeBlanc that has this Editor shaking his head about the procedures used by the Miramichi Police Force when investigating an assault case. Mr. LeBlanc was charged with assault by our own Miramichi Police Force because Fredericton Police asked them to investigate this case. Mr. LeBlanc seems to think they (The Fredericton Police Force) have an axe to grind with him but Mr. LeBlanc claims that NOBODY from our hometown Police Force spoke to him as part of their investigation. How is that an investigation when ALL PARTIES are not interviewed?? If this claim by Mr. LeBlanc hold true than something is not completely right with the investigation methods of our police force, in my opinion, since I believe the Miramichi Police Force are beyond reproach and if Mr. LeBlanc's claims are true, than it really opens the door to this reputation becoming tainted.
Miramichi Magazine
ReplyDeleteCharles admitted to the press after his court date that the Miramichi police force did offer an opportunity for him to give a statement; but he refused two attempts; one to do it in the Fredericton Police HQ, or at the Miramichi police HQ. He would prefer to do it "over a cup of coffee" which is basically saying he would rather have said it and then deny saying it afterwords when pressed.
What Charles; and in fact, many other readers here fail to realize, is that the offer to have it tapped and recorded was for Charles own benefit. It was not an interrogation, it was to give a statement for the record. Charles refused to do so; didn't play into his hands. Without that statement, the judge will find very little defense for Charles.
Yeah, its pretty hard to complain the police didn't talk to Charles if Charles refused to talk to them. The above might not be true as Charles routinely tapes police talking to him. I agree that if Charles wants to play 'I said...they said' then people need video evidence-either from him or police-the article only says about the coffee, not the recording. At the same time, I can understand Charles reluctance to get into a cop car for three hours or go to the fredericton station. But once again its an easy fix, you simply give Charles some cash to take the bus or take a taxi. For some reason those little things don't seem to occur to the police (that we know of).
ReplyDeleteBut it also seems a mistake to not at least try to get legal aid.
I have no idea what actually happened. In the case of assault, one would think Charles probation would be.....to stay away from Andrew Spencer!
And of course we're still waiting for a reporter to ask the Miramichi police why it took six months to lay a charge. A week would suffice, unless of course they harboured the hope that Charles would eventually talk to them.
Any Man who aggressively goes after a group of Woman holding a Anti Violence Rally in Public has already proven his character!
ReplyDeleteThis person has no self control in public or private and is not to be trusted.
Charles can say His defense in Court,no need to speak to police about a halfwit informant.
ReplyDeleteThere's always an excuse. If they had offered to talk to him over coffee, he would have said that this was too public or some other stupid excuse. With the Bernard report, he refused to talk to him because he was too busy taking pictures. Then he said they wouldn't pay for a lawyer. He yapped about it on the blog endlessly so has no trouble writing his thoughts without a lawyer.
ReplyDeleteThis just feeds into his need for persecution and the adrenalin rush and the attention he so desperately needs. Instead of being productive and building his self esteem with success, he need this to do it.
"you simply give Charles some cash to take the bus or take a taxi"
ReplyDeleteThis is not a solution; never has been, never will be. This is another handout for an able body person who should be able to work and make a living and pay his own way in life. Why should the cops foot the bill? Why should we foot his bill?
You are only entitled to Legal Aid Duty counsel if you are interviewed while involuntarily detained. Just going to give a voluntary statement doesn't qualify, and Charles was 100% correct not to speak with the cops without a lawyer - they are not trustworthy. As for 23:54's comment, that a judge will find very little defense for Charles without his taped statement, you have no idea what you are talking about - such materials hardly ever get onto the court record, and there is more to every investigation than one statement. Also, the police already had the statement that Charles uploaded himself onto Youtube, which pretty much said it all. This is just going to prove that the Miramichi Police are just as corrupt and inept as the local farce. I predict the police and Crown are going to lose this one.
ReplyDeletePolice and the legal system provides such funds to witnesses and others within the legal system all the time-often even if they DON"T need it. My suggestion WAS clearly a solution if the problem is that Charles was reluctant to get into a cop car and travel to Miramichi-and I can't say I blame him for that, or not wanting to go into the fredericton police station. IF those were the only options given, then Charles refusal to talk to them is perfectly reasonable. Whether a person can pay for the bill is irrelevant-why should they?
ReplyDeleteYou aren't 'entitled' to legal aid duty counsel. The provinces set the standard and they don't have to provide legal help AT ALL.
However, if charles isn't asking for a lawyer, and refusing to talk to the police, he can't really complain about them not taking his statement or not providing a lawyer.
I'm not so sure about whether they will win or lose, they probably don't care and are just trying to continue to rack up his 'history' with the police so that any time he has a legitimate complaint they can preface it with his 'record' and discredit him. Also, giving statements on a blog is not the same as giving them to the police.
As for the Bernard Richard report, there was virtually nothing that could be asked that Charles hadn't already gone over repeatedly in his blog. I sort of think it was a mistake not to talk to him just because of the perception, but it very well could have simply given Richard more 'ammunition' to target Leblanc, as he clearly did in his report. So in the end it may have been the smarter thing to do.
I think some of that 'stubbornness' does work against Charles. That seems to often be the way, but without that stubbornness he probably would have given up a long time ago, so its not really surprising.
But on his video Charles actually has a witness and the laws regarding assault are that if somebody comes at you, you have to use 'limited' force (which sadly doesn't seem to apply to police), and charles use of force seems to be clearly limited according to what his witness says. So yeah, unless the police have another witness somewhere saying something different, I don't see how this is 'assault'. Mind you, this is a province where the provincial government told Charles he would be charged with 'assault' if he even set foot on the grounds of the legislature, so clearly the 'powers that be' in New Brunswick 'be' reading a different law book than the rest of us.
Well said 10:39! and to the commenter at 14:23 - you clearly don't understand the issues, and where the real waste of money is, which is the cops, Crown, GNB, City and Courts spending hundreds of thousands of dollars (as it surely will be) to try and shut Charles up, and put him in jail, because that is the only way they can stop him reporting their wrongdoing... Charles was the one who was assaulted by a hobo, drugged up, drunk "halfwit", who was probably paid by the cops to do it, and the taxpayers are footing the bill. You are an idiot or a cop. Do you really think Charles ever wanted "bus fare" or money for a taxi to the Miramichi? You are more delusional than Andrew Spencer. Please seek help.
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